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Post by starjumpersix on May 1, 2014 14:03:27 GMT
Krow had an entire army of them. And so far, the arguments I heard were not "How to" but "unethical" . Krow never had an army of bioships. Where did you get that? *Baffled*
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Post by Chris Winters on May 1, 2014 14:29:53 GMT
Krow had an entire army of them. And so far, the arguments I heard were not "How to" but "unethical" . Krow never had an army of bioships. Where did you get that? *Baffled* ..of Mercs, people! xD Ze Pally means army of mercs!
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Post by killerwing on May 1, 2014 14:45:02 GMT
I think she meant army of mercs.
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Post by krow on May 1, 2014 14:55:16 GMT
Ohhhh yeah Sin had a small army. But I mean come on. Mercs are morons. All they need to do is shoot things. Since when can hired muscle be able to tell their ass from a hole in the ground? And I don't care if your merc is former Tal'shiar or a Bio-weapon researcher. You still won't be able to figure out anything about the Undine, since Starfleet can't. Starfleet > Mercs.
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Post by killerwing on May 1, 2014 15:17:49 GMT
The best Starfleet was able to figure out about the Undine was how to use Borg nanoprobes to destroy Undine cells, and that was originally meant as a medical mean to save someone whose body was being devoured alive by Undine cells. They ended up weaponizing the treatement through nanite torpedoes. That was over 20 years ago though in STO.
Obviously now, that research has been applied with the Bio-Molecular tech designed to fight the Undine.
It is more likely that the only species around in the galaxy that might know more info on how the Undine works would be the Borg Collective, following their renewed invasion attempts into Fluidic Space. However those attempts were stopped by Omega Force, and the Collective force in Fluidic Space probably wasn't able to really relay all the assimilation information they got back to the Collective itself. Although this means that the Collective does have the potential to try again if they can figure it out once more.
On the other hand, 17 of 25 is a Borg that came from one of those cubes that managed to assimilate Undines and experiment on them. She has that info on the Undine, and it could be possible for her to design the means to interface with an Undine ship, BUT(and it's a big but) she's a Starfleet officer, and given the current issues, trying to capture an Undine ship is not really her priority. She's more interested in seeing them destroyed(hence why she's developping and supplying the Avalon with enhanced Borg Nanoprobe torpedoes of her own design)
And the other big issue about that interface system she could make if possible, would be that this system would probably only work for a Borg. Random people wouldn't be able to use it. And the other problem is that if she were to be able to make that system, people around might get really curious about how the hell she can do that...
So, in short: Starfleet could try to figure out how Bioships work, but they're more busy trying to blow them up. The Borg Collective also had some pretty big info on the Undine from their new attempt to invade Fluidic Space, but that info was lost thanks to Omega Force making their own expedition in Fluidic Space. 17 of 25 actually came from one of the Borg cubes that successfully assimilated Undine, but as the cube was destroyed, it leaves her as the rare few that might figure out how to make tech to control a Bioship, but has no intention on doing so. Too risky on so many levels.
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Post by korzan on May 2, 2014 11:21:30 GMT
I doubt even 17 could figure out how to take control of a Bioship. Seems a bit of a stretch overall in that area. And Yes Mercs and non-SF entities would have an even harder time acquiring a Bioship. Sure the possibility of getting bits and studying them is something but that'd be very slow business there. Certainly you couldn't frankenstien the ships together.
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Post by starjumpersix on May 2, 2014 14:31:50 GMT
I doubt even 17 could figure out how to take control of a Bioship. Seems a bit of a stretch overall in that area. And Yes Mercs and non-SF entities would have an even harder time acquiring a Bioship. Sure the possibility of getting bits and studying them is something but that'd be very slow business there. Certainly you couldn't frankenstien the ships together. Seconding every thing in this post here! ^
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Post by killerwing on May 2, 2014 15:22:14 GMT
I doubt even 17 could figure out how to take control of a Bioship. Seems a bit of a stretch overall in that area. And Yes Mercs and non-SF entities would have an even harder time acquiring a Bioship. Sure the possibility of getting bits and studying them is something but that'd be very slow business there. Certainly you couldn't frankenstien the ships together. Seconding every thing in this post here! ^ No worries, I'm not gonna go 'Hey, 17 can hijack any bioships!'. We're still going with not using bioships, so no reasons to try to circumvent a decision the general public of the fleet agreed on. And as I said, 17's more busy making stuff to kill bioships rather than control them. EDIT: Just realized that the Borg knowledge 17 would have on Undine assimilation is mainly on assimilating Undine, and not their bioships. So she doesn't necessarily know how to somehow control a bioship or make something work for that. She'd need to develop the whole thing based on her data on Undine assimilation, given Undines and Bioships share the same organic structure. So, more reasons why she can't whip up some kind of thing instantly to control bioships. Relieved now?
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